Excellent. Write more please.

will try

Interesting job on the story, please add more

Not sure why i should bother after some of the reviews. If it' not a major heo like Batman they don't like it.

Hey Kate, I'd just like to toss out a thought to you about Willow.

You mention the "harm none" thing, I believe it's called the Wiccan reed or something like that?

But we never hear that anywhere on the show. And there's lots of differences between Buffy and reality even not counting the supernatural.

For example in the Buffyverse technology to create a functioning cyborg exists.

So maybe the "harm none" thing doesn't exist there.

hmm, that;s a possible thought. it was more implied by the way she talked that she was wiccan so I figured she'd follow the rede.

Still doesn't excuse stealing or lying but it may explain her breaking the rules.

And n the US, right now, we have robotic posthetics. that makes the people have them, pacemakers and artifical lungs and hips all Cyborgs.

Oops, missed something I wanted to touch on.


"I know Dad would have put your friend Buffy down like a rabid animal by now."

Okay, so Sargon would go out of his way to kill another hero who spends her life risking it against the forces of evil - and not because she wants to, but because her mystical Destiny compels her to do so.

I can posit that you're saying this because apparently Buffy has a kill all the demons outlook. I point you at Clem, Krevlorneswath, Spike, and Whistler. All demons. All, amazingly enough, known to Buffy and miraculously have not been killed when they were harmless. Admittedly, I would have killed Spike out of hand after he got chipped, because who trusts a leash around the neck of a rabid weasel?

Okay, so apparently Buffy kills stuff out of hand. When? When is this shown? On the show? Mostly, in canon, they patrol, they are a reactive force - that means they don't kick the door down unless the not fun screaming starts.

So then Buffy kills 'innocent beings.' Who told her they're all evil? Giles. Solution: Kill Giles out of hand and educate Buffy.

You don't kill the misled child soldiers unless they force you to. You kill their intel officers and their controllers, and then educate said child soldiers.

Could you PLEASE remeber that Rory doesn't know his father that well? Fate didn't say it and nither did Sargon himself. Kindly pay attention ot who spoke. not Any of the heroes or teachers, here. Sargon is thinking but he hasnt seen enough of Buffy to judge. And neither has Fate since she ran away ebfore he showe dup.

And this is season 3, i only mentioned willow killed in that one review to make a point.

Fate knows Xander is loyal to his friends here. He won't say it, he jsut does not trust the council, not that theyre all bad, but that thehierarchy is to be dustrusted. As about every fic on this site says.

Fate will reeducate all of them, don't worry. He's already fixing the books.

but please pay atteniton to who is speaking. Rory, ot Fat, not Sargon, but Rory who is, at best, a drunk with lucid moments

Interestingly out of canon, here. On both sides of the fence, for that matter. As I recall, Sargon the Sorcerer went villain for a bit in the Silver Age - Check 'The Flash' #186 and #207, where Sargon was working with Dr. Zoom, as well as 'Adventure Comics' #462, where it was revealed that at least one of the Rubies of Life had a corruptive influence on the mind of its bearer, coincidentally, the one that Sargon was using. In addition, the Ruby of Life offers 'Power over all the bearer touches'(More specifically, apparently absolute control) with no restrictions or limitations.

Willow, herself, may not be a multiple genius, but in canon, it's never directly claimed that she is. We know that she's at least decent at math, and loves computers. We also know that Xander shares many of her classes, and that Snyder orders her to help with other peoples English homework(Percy). In fanon, of course, she's frequently a multi-savant with incredible hacking skills. In canon, she occasionally hacks the local Coroner's Office.

Willow is manipulative and controlling, yes. She's not a flipping retard who would demand a powerful magical artifact from someone who owns it and proceed to claim that he's a clown as justification - especially not in front of witnesses. If you're going to go that way, at least do the intelligent, manipulative thing, and start working behind the scenes, as it were, with Giles in order to strip Xander of the Ruby of Life. And then of course the Nazi WW2 card gets played, with Willow's grandparents possibly being collaborators, setting s up for a big reveal in which her grandparents were really Nazi collaborators who voluntarily worked with German forces to point out other Jews, in return for not being jailed themselves. And, of course, somehow they came out of it with Big Money from Jewish Treasures that they got from their Nazi liaison officer as a Reward For A Job Well Done. You know, I bet they did more than collaborate, I bet you they were Dark Sorcerers who were summoning Demons for the Ananerbe in order to train the Shutzstaffel magus in Dark Magic.

On another note - if a person who was usually a cruel, mean, spiteful little bitch to me asked me how to save their work, I'd tell them that the shortcut for that is alt-f4.

Willow lies? Everybody lies. Willow stole books from Ethan? Oh no, Willow stole books of magic from a Chaos Sorcerer who has demonstrated his complete amorality not once, not twice, but at least three times on the show. Only bad move there was not giving them to Giles, but, honestly, she's an intelligent bibliophile who's learning magic. I'd've been more surprised hat she told Giles than would be if she read them first. She stole books from Giles? That happened in canon, and, as I recall, Giles just warned her about being 'hasty' and told her to return the books. Not really a big reaction there - though, admittedly, a boner move on Willow's part, as the Council had already demonstrated its antipathy towards Giles and Buffy.

Willow killed someone? Warren? You're seriously up in arms about *Warren* of all people getting killed? What about Giles? Giles murdered Ben on the show, and there's definitely a few more bodies hinted at in his closet. Warren shot and nearly killed Buffy, and did shoot and kill Tara. I'm sorry, -I would have killed him just for aiming a gun at a friend of mine and puling the trigger, never mind actually injuring or killing my best friend or my girlfriend. Yeah, well, maybe I'm not good people, either, but dammit, I'm armed and my friends feel safe when I'm around.

On technical matters - watch your spelling and grammar. Nobody's perfect, but you can at least run it through a spell/grammar checker before posting it. That would also catch all those random capitalizations you've got going on.

please read the part again, Fate said Sargon went bad. He went good again, to. I covered that.

I am a witch. the path that willow claimed to folow says HARM NONE!!!

I did run it through a speling and grammar check. The sites, actually so don't bitch at me if it's spelled wrong the sight didn't catch it didn't get it. Mine isn't working.

It's my story. DOn't like i don't read it but don't flame it. It's not easu to rite a corsosver and amke a charcter i normally hate good.

and by the way in canon? Those were GILES' books the little brat stole.

And as i said, I know Sargon went bacd but he died for everyone nlike I said.

To start with, I have one little correction. WWII was not The Great War. That was what WWI was called, before WWII came about.

Personally, I think you are going a bit overboard on how you are portraying Willow. Yes, she was arrogant and stubborn. Yes, she broke rules and never showed any regrets for it. Yes, she deserved punishment for things that she did. But I don't believe that she was *totally evil*, never doing anything worthwhile and unable to learn from mistakes. Yet that is the feeling I get from the way you are writing her, that everything she comes in contact with is corrupted by her. Don't take this as my trying to defend the character or her decisions. I'm not. But take into consideration that Xander (who you do seem to like) has considered her a good friend. Is his judgment that poor?

I also don't like the implication that you are making that the ruby is reacting to her because of something that someone else in her family did. It should only react to her because of what she has done, nothing else. The ruby should be completely unbiased, and "judge" each person/creature by their own merits. Fury can have his suspicions about Willow's grandparents if you wish, but don't have it related to the ruby in the slightest. Actually, having Willow be the latest in a line of evil-doers is part of how your portrait of her feels like overkill. Tone it down a bit if you don't want the character to become a caricature, as stereotyped as the jocks or cheerleaders were on the show.

actually, Fate said he wasn't sure. He thinks it's because of a tie to Nazi war criminals (Her grandparents) who used Jewish wealth to start over and everyone in the family knows so that makes them just as guilty (It's called accessory) and if she knew it means the same for her but he doesn't know if it's because the war criminal is where her magic came from or not. It recognizes a family line but it never reacted to her strongly before she was told about what the family had done and agreed to keep it secret and it never got blisteringly hot until she started being a mean spiteful little bitch (DEL is delete. it was cruel of the 'nice girl' to tell the mean kids to hit it. i was that kid she was and I NEVER would have done that. That's not what GOOD people do.) It was warm because she's a manipulative little snot who thought rules were above her but it was never hot until now. Really hot.

And I'll fix the comment about the war. i had family members in both and i get confused about which is which. Seeing as WWII is still The War.

And she didn' just break rules, she lied, she stole, she cheated, she cut corners and, oh yes, SHE KILLED. And I don't mean a demon. Again, something else Good People DON'T do

An interesting branch out with adding in a lot of characters. Thanks for sharing.

well, I;ve kept it DC unsiverse so far

This is great. I love the way this is unfolding. I was wondering why Xander started using the ruby so late. You said that he's had it since he was 13 and it always became hot around Willow, then why didn't he have access to the other powers that it had and why didn't it protect it from all the other evil things, like the mantis lady and mummy girl etc... (I'm assuming these things happened already since you mention Angel being in hell) Also does that mean that Buffy is not around,'cause in canon she ran away around that time.

For pairing ideas, I can't give you any from the comic universe since I'm not familiar with it. Any info I have on the justice league came from fics and a cartoon that i stumbled upon a while ago.
Anyway for pairings, I like the idea of Cory/Angel (I want to say Buffy/Angel since they were still sickenly in love around that time, but I don't like them together. I don't think you could ignore instinct like that)

I like Giles/Ethan (I always thought that they belonged together even on the show), for Willow I don't know, I don't think she should get someone (She's coming over as the villain here and it may be me, but she's bad and unless she changes she shouldn't be happy) PS. Is she going to learn from her mistakes, 'cause it's not looking that way, in fact I personally think she should remain her arrogant little self and get a beat down.

I love any slash pairing for Xander and if that's not where you're going with this, feel free to ignore me. I think that Xander/Larry sounds good, even though he was an utter jerk and a bully to Xander. I think that Xander/Angel is acceptable, if they can get through their issues in order to build a relationship.

I loved this, and just like all of your stories, it's an exceptionally original premise. Hope you post more soon.

He didn't realize what the ruby was. he thought his body heat made it warm so he envere questione dhow warm it was isnce she nly saw it if they'd been running around adn gotten hot and sweaty

He did use it after season 1. That's why the seamonster thing didn't affect him at all AND Why NAgelus nbacked off at thehosital. not even he was nutters enough to screw wiht the bearer of the Ruby of LIfe. The Ruby protected him

I almost consdiered Xander/Fate but soemone suggeted adding Fate tot he GIles/Ethan misx so you have ORder, Chaos and Balance.

Angel will be wiht Wesley who in this one will be arriving earlie adn is Jason Blood's ward. Jason Blood will be explained in the enxt aprt because Wes comes iht Michael.

No, Willow will not learn fomr ehr msitakes nad no, if she's that mean she doesn't deserve anyone. I think it may be Xander/Larry if it's not Xander/Fate

Her arrogant little self will get a amssive beat down. Nazi War Crimes are never forgotten and if anything her grandfahter and grandmother used to start them in the new world belonged to jews, it can be taken and they have to pay recompense. She will learn smart doesn't mean above the law beucse Bruce Wyane will also hit ehr for Hacking.

Hmmm...okay...I like this fic. Then again, I like fics that take a look at characters from a different perspective/angle. And don't take this the wrong way, I'm not bashing the way you treat Willow, it's just that I see a really cool possible plotline with her and I'm not sure if that's the way you're headed or if I'm just looking too much in to things.

I also like the way you had Xander's "new" crew form up. Oh, I'm sure there are going to be some rough edges for this new group (hey, it's High School, there's always going to be rough edges), but I like this approach.

what idea do you see for Willow?

his new crew will include Angel, Wesley and Michael (AKA Booster Gold, I have a few fics that say he's from the past, not the future)

I like how you explained Cordy and Larry's entrance.

While angel is back... will he be a bit crazy? I know that 8 months was 1200 years in that demon realm.... so he was gone for a month now? so he was in Hell for 150 years? That about right?

So his Grandfather is going to teach him magic tricks? maybe he could preform at the talent show... have him there with Cordy and Larry as assistants..... *cackles*

he will and yes, his dead grandfather is teaching him magic tricks
no, Angel won't be crazy because as time passed there, so did it pass where Fate took him first. He did a lot of healing before he took him bck to Sunnydale.

There is a fine line between legitimate complaints about a character and needlessly bashing a character and you took a running jump over that line when you felt the need to create the "Willow is actually stupid, and only passes because of her parents" plot. Actually If you had wanted to explore that a bit in a story you could get away with it but when you use it over and over along with the over zealous "Not all demons are evil and the slayer is the equivalent of a rapid dog" you are no longer writing fanfiction but standing on your soapbox preaching your views with characters that vaguely resemble the originals.

It is possible to work the not all demons are evil angle, many stories have done it well and without making it sound like they are insulting the very roots of canon BtVS. It's also possible to vilify a canonly protagonist character for plot purposes without going on a personal vendetta against the character.

On the upside this isn't another Mummy x-over clone.

Reviewer response:

I read the warnings and I'm not a fan of Willow but like I was trying to get across in my review their is a line between not liking a character and going out of your way to vilify them. My review isn't a flame it's an attempt at justifiable and constructive criticism.

Also I have to wonder about Xander feeling he has to apologize to Angel(us). One to the best of my knowledge Xander doesn't know if the spell worked or not. And second is that Xander did the right thing, if he had told Buffy the truth the very best possibility would be canon repeats and Angel gets sent to hell and worst has Buffy not giving it her all, dieing and the world ending. Please clarify what exactly he feels he needs to apologize for.

uhm. I warned you in the notes if you liked her not to read it. i warned you in the description and I warn you at the start of every part. If you are bothered, that's not my fault. I marked the story clearly.

And I AM a Witch, Willow as nothing but a thief and a junkie. BY JOSS' WORDS!

Sorry, I know yelling isn't polite but I wanred you. You seem to have read this story just to have something to complain about or a story to flame. Therefore I will disregard it as a tantrum by soemone who ignored the warnings in the story and in the heading of each part.

I didn't say apologize. I said he wants ANgel back. I'll explain that more in the next part when Cordy asks how he knew Angel was in hell.

And no, Willow is a thief and a liar. I didn't say she was stupid, I said she was a genius in one or two subjects, not that she wasn't smart or clever, just not as smart as she says she is.

He feels responsible because the ruby showed himw aht ahppened and he knws it was his lie that caused it.

Angel will tell him that he wold have done the same but he still wanted to correct it.

as for vilifying her? Joss did that enough himself. I'm just following his trend.

As for the mummy thing? I have ADD nad the only way to quiet my ehad is to write every story taht starts in my mind. I actually wrote ten more for Buffy Alone than I posted but i only posted the ones i can make a whole story out of.

Thank you for clairfying your comments but please note I did not say she was stupid. I said she was only a genius in two subjects.

Awesome stuff so far I can not wait for more.

Workin on it

Informant beats my first theory of their grand parents being Nazis hiding from their war crimes... I would think that Willow's next step would be for her to try to mess with Xander's memory... though without the books she might majorly have to 'improvise' maybe letting Xander see first hand every test or essay she cheated on (maybe switching her test for Xander's) every time she hacked the school computer to alter her and Xander's grades. Even little comments she used to give to get Xander in trouble with teachers or even his parents... sort of instead of a memory spell to hide all of her wrong doings an active one that actually displays it. Maybe even show Willow altering Cordelia's parents tax information or even Xander's parents' (though that would be really evil if she somehow was responsible for his father to not have a job, maybe for a little slight...)

Er sorry devil's advocate just thinking of what to add to her offenses to push her from good person making bad choices to bad person taking advantage of good people.

~Reflections

well, she could do it right but that ruby has a habit ot protecting it's user meaning if she tried it would backfire on her and reveal everything she did.

Also, one of her grandparents could be a nazi. i said one of them, probably her grandmother, was an infromant. Some fo the worst spies were women. Her grandfather may have been a Nazi, one that faced Fate and Sargon, but one of the lucky ones, he lived.

Some nazi war criminals have taken jewish last names to escape being noticed.

Some also took the names of thier informants after they sent them to the camps

I'm not entirely comfortable with one and only ONE aspect of the Willow-bashing. I simply feel that the Ruby should not judge her for events that were not hers to control, such as your implied collaboration on the part of her ancestors. Unless you are trying to say that evil is inherited, the Ruby ought only judge her for her own misdeeds--which are, admittedly, many in number.

Edited to add: Before you go on to say that she's evil and wrong and you know because you're a witch, be aware that many of my friends are witches and I am...ah...'talented' myself. I am in agreement with your opinion of Willow's actions in Season 6 and later and partially in agreement for earlier. I think her earlier actions don't warrant as much punishment as you think but they still do warrant some. I just don't approve of judging someone by their ancestors' actions.

remeber Fate said he suspected that's why it happened, he doesn't know yet. he's not omnicient. The Ruby likely was reacting to her theft of Giles' books bus as Sargon wasn't always a straight shooter he's not sure.

I love the fic! I hope you can get more of it out soon.

Will Angel give Xander a chance to apologize? I know he was jealous... but he was probably also worried that Buffy and Giles would be killed....

No, that was mostly jealuousy. But yes he will let him apologize.
Hope should have mroe out soon